Re: Calosol

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Originally posted by GriffPlease stop using chemicals, they are very dangerous!

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calosol

Not in the food I eat or the skin care products or the toothpast I use. Oh yeah, I also use sea salt and eat 100% organic diet with no dairy or gluten. I was just putting this stuff out there so everyone can make a fair decision for themselves. If I ever want antibiotics or steroids I will go get them from my doctor and not in the food that I eat or the milk that I drink. I used calosol for over 4 years. Elias was great till all my hair started falling out again, then all my emails went unanswered. I though that was kind of wierd. That is good for a laugh I think, look what you wrote "gererally recognized as safe". Sorry I don't want it in my body. Its amazing where a little lobbying and alot of money will get you these days. Again im not trying to scare anyone, just giving a few facts so that people can make a good informed decision. Hope everyone has a great day!

Dude, sorry to burst your bubble but Organic food contains chemicals and plenty of them believe me.

The term Organic (by the food standards authority in the UK & USA) simply means it's been grown with less pesticides than regular food. It's a myth that it's gown without any chemical 'help' and publicly admitted to on such authorative websites.

Several studies corroborate this finding by having found that that while 77 percent of conventional food carries synthetic pesticide residues, only about 25 percent of organic food does.

It's much better that is true but to think your organic veg doesn't contain a hundred and one chemicals is false hope.

Not trying to rock your boat or anything but this comes up time and time again.

As for Calosol - I have used it too and also found their answering to questions and their forum posts either slow, unresponsive, aggressive and rude so don't see this response as defense of calosol - more the fact that chemicals are not all death causing - everyone eats them every day.

Humans are made up of chemicals!!!

Calosol

Hey Punk, where in my post did I ever say that i buy anything that I eat? I grow or farm everything that goes into my body, and YES I make sure it is 100% ORGANIC including the soil. I don't trust anyone, especially the FDA or the USDA to tell me that what I am buying is ok to eat. My tomatoes may not be as big as watermelon, but at least I know there is nothing foreign in them. Luckily everyone can make their own decisions on how to live, and the decisions you make are not effecting my body. I absolutely do believe that synthetic chemicals make you fat, hungry and cause all sorts of diseases and cancer. No FDA funded website can change my mind on the subject. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are ways to eat food with NO chemicals. Knowledge is power punk.

So what do you do if your sick? refuse the chemicals that will make you better?
What do you drink? Water from a tap?
And how do you get about? walk everywhere or do you drive a pollution making veichal and breath in it's fumes?

Do you also cover your mouth to protect you from pesticides that will blow from other farms into yours? into your soil and ultimately into your food? Or from rain which is sucked up from polluted seas and then rained down into your soil and into your food?

I admire your stance, but the sad fact is you can't escape chemicals. Limit them yes, escape them no.

Knowledge is power indeed...

Second to that - if your reading this you must be using a monitor and a computer of some sort - those will be emitting low levels of radiation through your body as you sit reading this.

Happy days!

Calosol

You forgot cell phones and microwaves...lol. I can just imagine Punk running back to his/her computer every few minutes, clicking refresh to see what he/she can argue about next lol. Not sure why we are now talking about electromagnetic chaos on the calosol thread? Anyway.... I am just here to let everyone know what has benefitted my life, health, and hair. If anyone would liike more info on what I have benifited from just pm me so we don't have to hear from punk(whos screen name is rightfully chosen by the way), otherwise I hope everyone can find their own ways to reclaim what this rotten disease has taken from us. Even if it is by using calosol. Good day to all!

Dude, you came to this forum telling people who are looking into treatments and referring to calosol you said "Please stop using chemicals, they are very dangerous!"

I am pointing out to other readers that your ill informed words should be taken with a pinch of salt and that the same chemicals you reference with your paranoid scaremongering can be found in many other products that these people will be using on a daily basis.

is anyone using Calosol.

Hi Punk,

I've read the last few posts and I absolutely agree with your last post, and indeed with everything you've said in your other posts.

Rosie.

calosol

Ok, and my point was I DON'T use any of these chemicals on a daily basis in anything that goes on or in my body, OR THEY ARE DRASTICALLY REDUCED PUNK. Our bodies are made to handle alot of things, just think about all the stress we put on our bodies. It can handle a few chemicals but when its overrun with them thats when we start having problems. Its like fighting just a couple people or 70,000 people. Which scenario do you think you would have the best chance at winning? Its through processes called Bio-accumulation, Bio-concentration, and bio-magnification that these seemingly harmless chemicals are having deadly effects. While pesticides ("-icide" is Latin for "to murder or kill" as in "homicide" fyi) that existed for centures, World Wars I and II served as a watershed for the modern agrichemical industry. Chemicals and technologies developed for warfare were later adapted for use in agriculture and pest control. So if these chemicals were meant to kill, why wouldn't they?
Over the past 40 years many scientific studies have verified findings regarding the adverse effects of agricultural chemicals, including those used on plants for medicinal and cosmetic purposes, which led to know carcinogens such as DDT, Dieldrin and a host of others being banned. The unfortunate thing is that is took decades for this to happen.
Here is an example of bio-magnification punk so you don't have to look it up.
In order to "control" an insect called a gnat (a relative of the mosquito) at Clear Lake, north of San Fransisco, the authorities used the chlorinated hydrocarbon insecticide dichloro diphenyl dichloro ethane (DDD which is a relative of DDT), in a diluted form of one part DDD to 70 million parts water. At first the gnats were brought under control, but soon their numbers increased. So the authorites again sprayed on part DDD to 50 million parts water.
In the winter after the first treatment, many hundreds of birds were discovered dead. And again, in the winter following the second treatment, many more birds were found dead. After examination of the fatty tissue of the birds, extraordinarily high levels of DDD were found, much higher than was ever put into the water. Researchers realised that the chemical had been taken in by the smallest life form, concentrated, and then passed on to the next life form unitil its concetrations reached the phenomenal levels found in the birds.
No trace of DDD was found in the water because it had been absorbed into the bodies of life that the lake suppported. Worse still, the poinson had been passed up the food chain. that is why we still find these chemicals in our food today. After 23 months, the plankton from the lake still had the chemicals in it. All the birds, fish and frogs examined also had the chemical in them.
DDD was added to the water in very low concentrations (0.02ppm), yet it was found that plankton organisms were found to caontain 5ppm, a multiplication bio-magnification-------> of 250.Plant-eating fish had been found to contain 40-300ppm, and carnivorous species of fish stored a massive 2,500ppm, a bio magnification---------->of 125,000! It has been extablished since this original work that some compunds can bio-magnify through the food chain many millions of times, and we are at the top of most food chains punk.
The sad truth is that when we introduce synthetic chemicals into our environment, it takes many many years for us to "discover" what really happens. This is not a scientific approach that benefits society, but a science that uses society for profit and experimentation. If you want to be part of the experiment, by all means go ahead and do that. Like I said before I am fortunate that the things you do, do not effect my body!
So yeah, to say "please stop using chemcals they are very dangerous!" is probably and understatment. But why should I care how people get better, maybe chemicals help some people get better or maybe its just that they think they do and it makes them feel better. I don't know, but I do have an open mind unlike some others. You don't have to be full of synthetic chemicals in order to live your life contrary to Punks beliefs.
How is it "paranoid scaremongering" if I am telling people what I have done to better my life and health. Sorry I would like to help people out to maybe try something new if nothing else is working, I think thats what this board is all about.
Who is the paranoid one when you try and strike down anything that you don't do or believe? Are you scared to try new things in fear that they may work? You haven't done any research for yourself, all you know is what you have been told by the government agencies, which is basically the worse "scaremonger " of all! I would hate to be so feebleminded.